I did look at the link you gave me, and didnt quite understand it...
I am using a custom field... I should have noted that,
Waht I said was I tried to scalp the user_ page (template) since it did display the field fine, but wont show in my version without all the extra stuff...
I guess my understanding is that user data is floating around somewhere in a variable, just how to properly display the field, I can do name & email, and all the standard ones fine, this is only my first year in school so im struggling with a few things and teacher is busy with kids that are more lost, i study all the time but this is hard
anyways thanks, I try working with what you sent